Curse

Chicken Ftw · May 21, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by haggus71

Try that HM. Chances are, it's the good monking/support that is saving that retard from dying in his mindless charge. Take hero monks with Alesia's pre-Crystal Desert build and see how awesome-sauce you are. GG

Yeah, gimp yourself with a shitty build on your monks. Sounds like a great idea. No shit it's the monks saving you. Selket's statement is still true.

haggus71 · May 21, 2009, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Yeah, gimp yourself with a shitty build on your monks. Sounds like a great idea. No shit it's the monks saving you. Selket's statement is still true.

I guess you missed that "try that HM" part, even though it's at the beginning of the post. The point was not whether you "can do it" I can drive with my eyes closed down a straight road for 5 seconds and, 4/5, I won't get in a wreck. Does that make me a good driver? No. It makes me an ass who is driving with his eyes closed. Airbags will keep me alive, though, so who cares? Right? Take the airbags away and throw in some twists(hard mode), and you get my ass through a windshield, which, while many would enjoy that, isn't a good thing.

The point was, doing that, whether you "can do it" or not, makes you a bad player.

GG.

Chicken Ftw · May 21, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30

It's PvE, toss up prot spirit/soa and aggro as many mobs as you know your monks can hold/team can kill quickly. I missed nothing, I helped my gf reach legendary vanquisher and guardian this way and it's remarkably quick and easy. Regardless, if you're not plowing through mobs quickly and mindlessly, your team sucks and needs reworking. PvE isn't exactly rocket science.

Ate of DK · May 21, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Somethimes I take no skills on my bar to make a mission more challenging.

One of my favorites is Shards of Orr in HM with just Prot Spirit on my monks bar. It was epic QQ back then how hard this dungeon is.

haggus71 · May 21, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Easy to say without pics/vid. Love it when I get to wear the boots on the forums from all the bs sloshing around.

Gun Pierson · May 21, 2009, 10:49 PM // 22:49

The main reason why I prefer heroes over pugs is that heroes are all behind the team strat and synergy which means my strat and how I setup bars. A pug almost never can be that synchronised and efficient unless they all are decent players standing behind the same approach. An example where it did work for the masses was Ursan, because it's a pve only skill (can not be put on heroes' bars) and well it was not hard to execute the bar which was the same for everyone in the party except for the monks who just had to keep HB up and spam Heal Party + Seed of Life. Which results again in fast setups vs a 'balanced' pug which will take much longer before you actually can start playing.

With heroes you determine yourself what the strat will be. 95% of this game, which include HM areas can be steamrolled or offense is in my personal experience the best way to go. Now with pugs, not everybody has the same style, some are more defensively orientated. Some play more in a 'relaxed' way or just wanne have some casual fun. There are many different factors why people play this game or how they enjoy playing the game. Some people play this game for the 'social' aspect and prefer teaming up with real players.

The skill or knowledge of each player is different too. If you play with heroes, the whole party has a certain level, your level or your way to setup bars and team synergy. The party will also move as one entity where as with pugs you have less control over the events. When your h/h team got wiped, you have only yourself to blame and you can work on it, make progress.

Another thing I like to point out is that with henchies, you can exactly pin point how bad they are, their shortcomings. You know what to expect and what not to expect.

It is my belief that when you have the hang of this game and you somewhat know all classes and skills, playing with h/h or 6 heroes (if you have two accounts) is always better in terms of efficiency and time than playing with a pug in most situations and with a very high succes rate.

byteme! · May 21, 2009, 11:48 PM // 23:48

I always try to help. ALWAYS! People often mistaken me for the ,"Anal, Know-it-all, etc..." right off the bat. Some don't even bother to listen. It's really frustrating sometimes when you have in your heart, good intentions to teach and the person being taught refuses to listen. I'm not the best player nor do I think I'm bad either but I have played this game long enough to understand it.

I find it very rewarding. A few times I've had people from seemingly out of nowhere PM me thanking me for helping them. I've helped so many people I can't possibly remember them all so when I get a "TY" it's quite the surprise even after 6+ months. It gives me a warm feeling that I've helped someone so much so that even after a lengthy period of time I've left such an impression that they still remember me 6 months down the road.

If I was in a highend PvP Guild or If I had higher ranks of some sort I'd still take PuGs in a heart beat. Winning in a video game is 1 thing. Sharing your knowledge and watching it all unfold is PRICELESS. If you think I'm an Elitist feel free to spit on me because I'd probably spit on myself. For the record, I PuG more then I H/H because I enjoy the company of strangers over my ever so silent heroes. If I fail so be it! It's not the first time and it won't be the last. I've failed just as hard with PuGs as I have with organized groups only difference is the former has a higher chance of failing.

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